Both Sire and Mare are N/N. Will be weaned in August. Spicy has been messed with since she hit the ground. Leads...jogs...picks up all 4 feet. In your pocket. Sweet as they come. I wish I could keep her and show her myself. Picture doesn't do her justice. She is huge. Sire is 16.2 I honestly believe she would give the "Big Boys" a run for thier money in the right hands.